SN8121 : Llyn y Fan Fach from Picws Du
Moderate mountain walk in good conditions

Bannau Sir Gaer - Picws Du

749m Elevation
93m Prominence
Wales Country

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SN8121 : Llyn y Fan Fach from Picws Du

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Overview

Picws Du is a 749.1 m summit above Llyn y Fan Fach in the Black Mountain, western Bannau Brycheiniog. Its cairn-topped ridge overlooks a glacial lake and steep sandstone cliffs. Summit circuits involve exposed escarpments and sustained climbing; the lakeside track is a separate, lower-level outing.

Bannau Sir Gaer – Picws Du

Picws Du rises to 749.1 m above Llyn y Fan Fach in the Black Mountain, in the western part of Bannau Brycheiniog National Park. A cairn marks its summit. The grassy ridge gives way abruptly to the cliffs above the lake, which are the defining feature of this walk.

Choose a summit route

The northern circuit starts at Llyn y Fan Fach car park near Llanddeusant. Walking Britain’s route 3559 follows Afon Sychlwch to the col east of Picws Du, crosses the summit, then returns along the western escarpment and down to the lake. Its published figures are 8.6 km, 485 m of ascent and 4 hours.

A different circuit begins at the small roadside parking area at SN853218, east of Llyn y Fan Fawr. Walking Britain’s route 3563 climbs through Bwlch Giedd, includes Fan Brycheiniog and an out-and-back visit to Picws Du via Fan Foel, then descends north of Fan Foel to return beside the lake. It is 11.5 km with 606 m of ascent; the published time is 5 hours 10 minutes. Allow more time for stops and difficult conditions.

The track to Llyn y Fan Fach offers a shorter lakeside outing without climbing Picws Du. A lake walk, the western ridge circuit and the longer two-lake routes have different distances and demands.

Ridge, weather and navigation

Expect steep path sections, loose stones near the escarpment, open grass and wet ground. Keep well back from the cliffs, particularly in wind or mist, and keep dogs close around the edges and sheep. Carry a map and compass and know how to use them; the remote terrain and branching paths demand care when cloud hides the landmarks.

Snow or ice can obscure paths and make steep ground much more serious. Cornices may overhang the escarpment: stay well away from the snow edge. Winter conditions require appropriate skills and equipment, and short daylight needs extra planning.

Access and facilities

Approach the northern car park through Llanddeusant on narrow lanes, with an uneven final approach. Parking space is limited; follow current signs and keep access clear. The car park has an information panel. Bring supplies for the walk; Llandovery has shops and cafés. Plan rail and onward transport separately, checking current connections through Traveline Cymru.

Landscape and neighbouring tops

The rocks around the lake and cliffs belong to the Devonian Old Red Sandstone, including the Brownstones and Plateau Beds formations. Ice shaped the deep hollow now occupied by Llyn y Fan Fach.

Waun Lefrith is the lower top to the west. Fan Foel and Fan Brycheiniog lie to the east, beyond an intervening descent and climb. Fan Brycheiniog’s highest point, Twr y Fan Foel, is distinct from its nearby trig-point top.

Bannau Sir Gaer means “Carmarthenshire peaks”. Welsh folklore associates the lake below with the Lady of the Lake and the Physicians of Myddfai.

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Picws Du and Llyn y Fan Fach from Llanddeusant

Circular from Llyn y Fan Fach car park (SN798238), via Afon Sychlwch and the col east of Picws Du. Cross the summit and western escarpment, descend to the lake and return by the access track. Walking Britain route 3559: 485 m ascent.

8.6 km ~4 hours Moderate mountain walk

Fan Brycheiniog and Picws Du from the east

From roadside parking at SN853218, cross the Tawe to Llyn y Fan Fawr and ascend Bwlch Giedd. Visit Fan Brycheiniog and Picws Du via Fan Foel; return to Fan Foel, descend north and follow the lakeside path back. Walking Britain route 3563: 606 m ascent; 5 h 10 min.

11.5 km ~5.2 hours Moderate mountain walk
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Hill facts and local notes

Classifications

Simm Hewitt Nuttall Subhump

Elevation

749m

2,458 ft

Prominence

93m

Coordinates

51.8826, -3.7278

SN811218

OS Map

160

Explorer: OL12W

At the Summit

A cairn marks the open summit at SN811218, above the northern escarpment overlooking Llyn y Fan Fach.

Terrain & Geology

Track approaches steep mountain paths open grassy ridge stony and loose ground near the escarpment muddy or boggy sections.

The cliffs and lake basin expose Devonian Old Red Sandstone, including the Brownstones and Plateau Beds formations. Glacial erosion shaped the cirque containing Llyn y Fan Fach; glacial deposits and moraine also occur around the lake.

Views & Scenery

The chief view is down to Llyn y Fan Fach and along the curved escarpment towards Waun Lefrith. Fan Foel and Fan Brycheiniog rise to the east; clear weather opens wider views across the Black Mountain and the Carmarthenshire countryside.

History & Heritage

Name Origin

Bannau Sir Gaer means “Carmarthenshire peaks”, as translated by Fforest Fawr UNESCO Global Geopark.

Historical Significance

Welsh folklore links Llyn y Fan Fach, below the mountain, with the Lady of the Lake and the Physicians of Myddfai. The mountain and lake form part of this well-known local legend.

Getting There & Facilities

Parking

Llyn y Fan Fach car park east of Llanddeusant, at the northern end of the lake access track (Walking Britain route start SN798238). Approach on narrow lanes with an uneven final section. Spaces are limited: follow current parking signs, check any charges and keep passing places and access clear. The eastern route uses separate roadside parking at SN853218.

Public Transport

Plan rail connections via Llangadog or Llandovery, then arrange onward transport to the chosen start. Check current times and return connections with Traveline Cymru. Do not assume a bus serves Llyn y Fan Fach car park; the old published postbus reference is not a current timetable.

Nearby Facilities

An information panel is provided at Llyn y Fan Fach car park. Bring food, water and mountain equipment for the ridge. Llandovery has shops and cafés for supplies before or after the walk.

Safety Information

Known Hazards

  • Steep cliffs border the northern escarpment. Keep back from loose edges, especially in gusts or poor visibility.
  • Steep paths, loose stones and wet ground require careful footing; stream crossings can become harder after heavy rain.
  • Remote mountain terrain and branching paths need competent navigation in low cloud. Carry a map, compass and reliable backup.
  • Sheep graze the mountain. Keep dogs close and under control, particularly beside cliffs.

Seasonal Hazards

Snow and ice can hide paths and make the steep escarpment hazardous. Cornices may overhang the edge; keep well back from them. Winter conditions require appropriate navigation skills and equipment. Allow for short daylight, and expect wetter ground and higher streams after prolonged rain or thaw.

General Safety Tips

  • Check weather conditions before setting out
  • Carry appropriate clothing and equipment
  • Let someone know your planned route
  • Take a map, compass, and GPS device
  • Carry emergency supplies: food, water, first aid kit, torch

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