SH6864 : Rocks on Carnedd Llewelyn
Strenuous; route-dependent scrambling

Carnedd Llewelyn

1,062m Elevation
748m Prominence
Wales Country

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SH6864 : Rocks on Carnedd Llewelyn

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Overview

Carnedd Llewelyn (Carnedd Llywelyn) is the highest summit in the Carneddau, in Eryri, Wales. DoBIH v18.6 records 1,061.8 m. Long approaches lead to a broad stony summit with a cairn. Routes from Ogwen, Gerlan and Cwm Eigiau require mountain navigation; several include scrambling.

Overview

Carnedd Llewelyn, also written Carnedd Llywelyn, is the highest summit of the Carneddau in Eryri, Wales. The Database of British and Irish Hills v18.6 records 1,061.8 m, with 747.5 m prominence. It is the third-highest Welsh summit in that dataset, after Yr Wyddfa and Crib y Ddysgl (Garnedd Ugain). Older guides commonly give 1,064 m. DoBIH

Summit and terrain

The summit is a cairn on a broad stony plateau. Its detailed grid reference is SH 68364 64375. DoBIH distinguishes a nearby lower shelter from the summit cairn. Several ridges leave the plateau, so use map-and-compass navigation in cloud. Approaches combine rock, loose slopes, grass and bog; they are substantial mountain outings.

Geology and name

BGS places the area in the Ordovician volcanic terrain associated with the Llewelyn Volcanic Group and records tuff on the mountain’s north side. Granite and slate are not an adequate summary. BGS

The name means β€œLlywelyn’s cairn”. Traditions differ between Llywelyn ap Iorwerth and Llywelyn ap Gruffydd. Hugh Derfel Hughes’s 1864 Llawlyfr Carnedd Llywelyn reflects the mountain’s long cultural importance. The name does not establish a prince’s burial on the summit. Carneddau Landscape Partnership

Choosing a route

The route cards summarise five distinct itineraries:

  • An Ogwen circuit from the east end of Llyn Ogwen, over Pen yr Ole Wen and Carnedd Dafydd, returning past Ffynnon Llugwy
  • An A5 approach via the Ffynnon Llugwy reservoir road and Bwlch Eryl Farchog, retraced for an out-and-back
  • A long Cwm Eigiau circuit over Foel Grach, Carnedd Llewelyn, Pen yr Helgi Du and Pen Llithrig y Wrach
  • A Gerlan scrambling circuit over Crib Lem, Carnedd Dafydd, Carnedd Llewelyn and Yr Elen
  • A Gerlan horseshoe ascending Yr Elen and returning from Carnedd Dafydd over Mynydd Du

These summaries are not turn-by-turn navigation. Plan the entire route and return. The Ogwen and southeast approaches include rock steps; Crib Lem is a Grade 1 scramble. The Gerlan horseshoe has bog, loose ground and a river crossing. There is no basis here for promising a waymarked northern route or general beginner suitability. Ogwen circuit Β· Gerlan horseshoe

Access and facilities

Bethesda/Gerlan and the Ogwen valley are useful bases. Use designated parking without obstructing roads or farm access. The reservoir approach begins on the A5; do not assume public vehicle access to Ffynnon Llugwy. Cwm Eigiau has a remote road-end parking area. Ogwen Centre provides toilets, drinks and snacks; carry supplies for the mountain. Eryri: Ogwen

The T10 serves Bangor, Bethesda, Ogwen and Betws-y-Coed. Check current stops, timetables and the last return. Avoid relying on historic bus names or published parking prices.

Safety and responsible access

Check the mountain forecast, carry suitable clothing, navigation equipment, food and water, and leave a route plan. Cloud, high winds, crags and a wrong summit exit can create serious difficulties. Rain makes loose rock and streams more hazardous. Snow, ice and cornices require appropriate winter skills and equipment. In a mountain emergency call 999, ask for Police, then Mountain Rescue. Eryri safety advice Β· Ogwen Mountain Rescue

Keep dogs under control and on a short lead around livestock. On open access land use a lead no longer than 2 m from 1 March to 31 July. Wild camping requires prior permission from the landowner or farmer. Dogs Β· Camping

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Route planning notes

These notes describe possible approaches. Check a route's map and access information when planning your walk.

Southern Carneddau circuit via Pen yr Ole Wen

From the A5 near Glan Dena at the east end of Llyn Ogwen, ascend through Cwm Lloer to Pen yr Ole Wen, then cross Carnedd Dafydd to Carnedd Llewelyn. Descend the southeast ridge and Bwlch Eryl Farchog path to Ffynnon Llugwy, returning by the reservoir road and A5. Short Grade 1 scrambling sections and exposed high ground require care. Allow 6–8 hours in suitable conditions.

14 km Challenging; Grade 1 scrambling

From the A5 via Ffynnon Llugwy

Start from a legal parking place or bus stop on the A5 and walk up the reservoir access road to Ffynnon Llugwy. Climb to Bwlch Eryl Farchog, then negotiate the rock step beside Craig yr Ysfa to reach Carnedd Llewelyn. An out-and-back retraces this line. This is a strenuous mountain route with steep loose ground and scrambling; include the reservoir road in the walk from the A5.

Challenging; Grade 1 scrambling

Cwm Eigiau circuit via Foel Grach and Pen yr Helgi Du

From the Cwm Eigiau road-end parking, a long circuit reaches Carnedd Llewelyn via Foel Grach, then crosses the southeast ridge and Bwlch Eryl Farchog to Pen yr Helgi Du. Return via Pen Llithrig y Wrach and Cwm Eigiau. Exposed rock steps, rough ground and remote navigation make this a demanding full day. Choose and map the complete line before setting out.

Challenging; scrambling and exposed ridges

Crib Lem circuit from Gerlan near Bethesda

Approach through Cwm Llafar from Gerlan and climb the Grade 1 Crib Lem spur to Carnedd Dafydd. Continue along the high ridge to Carnedd Llewelyn, then return over Yr Elen and Foel Ganol. This is a remote scrambling circuit with exposed rock, boulders and boggy lower ground, for confident scramblers. The published route allows 5–7 hours; conditions can add substantially to that.

14.3 km Challenging; Grade 1 scrambling

Cwm Llafar horseshoe from Gerlan via Yr Elen

From Gerlan, follow Cwm Llafar and cross the Afon Llafar only when safe, then ascend via Foel Ganol and Yr Elen to Carnedd Llewelyn. Continue to Carnedd Dafydd and descend Mynydd Du to rejoin the approach. Boggy ground, a river crossing, loose slopes and indistinct sections demand careful navigation. The published circuit is about 13.25 km and 7 hours; allow more in poor conditions.

13.3 km ~7 hours Challenging mountain walk
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Hill facts and local notes

Classifications

Marilyn Furth Simm Hewitt Nuttall High Hills of Britain Current County/UA Top

Elevation

1,062m

3,484 ft

Prominence

748m

Coordinates

53.1602, -3.9703

SH683643

OS Map

115

Explorer: OL17E OL17W

At the Summit

A cairn marks the summit on a broad stony plateau, not a trig pillar. DoBIH records a shelter 25 m south-southwest of the cairn as 0.4 m lower. The summit grid reference is SH 68364 64375.

Terrain & Geology

Stony summit plateau boulder-strewn ridges steep loose slopes grass and bog intermittent mountain paths route-dependent scrambling

The mountain lies within the Ordovician volcanic terrain of the Carneddau. BGS describes the Llewelyn Volcanic Group as mainly acid ash-flow tuffs with some basic and intermediate volcanic rocks, and records tuff on Carnedd Llewelyn’s north side. A simple granite-and-slate description is misleading; rock types vary across the massif.

Views & Scenery

In clear weather the high ridges give views across the Carneddau, towards the Glyderau and Yr Wyddfa massif, and out to Anglesey and the Irish Sea. Cloud can remove views completely.

History & Heritage

Name Origin

“Llywelyn’s cairn” in Welsh; Carnedd Llywelyn is a common Welsh spelling. Traditions differ over whether the name refers to Llywelyn ap Iorwerth (Llywelyn the Great) or Llywelyn ap Gruffydd. The attribution should not be presented as certain.

Historical Significance

The Carneddau preserve a rich prehistoric cairn landscape and traditions associated with the princes of Gwynedd. Hugh Derfel Hughes published Llawlyfr Carnedd Llywelyn in 1864, an early mountain guide. These associations do not establish that the summit cairn is a medieval prince’s grave.

Getting There & Facilities

Parking

Choose parking for the intended approach. Ogwen has a small National Park car park and designated A5 bays; spaces are limited and restrictions must be observed. Gerlan parking is very limited: avoid blocking homes, farm access or roads. The Cwm Eigiau road-end car park is at about SH731663. Approaches via Ffynnon Llugwy start down on the A5, with the reservoir road included in the walk.

Public Transport

The TrawsCymru T10 links Bangor, Bethesda, Ogwen and Betws-y-Coed. Check the current timetable, exact stop and last return before planning a walk. Cwm Eigiau’s remote road-end start has no direct public transport in the cited route guide.

Nearby Facilities

Ogwen Centre has toilets, drinks and snacks. Bethesda has shops and places to eat; check opening hours. Carry your own food and water for the mountain. The cited Gerlan circuit has no facilities on the route; summit stone shelters should not be treated as serviced accommodation.

Safety Information

Known Hazards

  • Navigation on a broad summit with several exit ridges, especially in cloud
  • Steep crags and exposed ground beside ridge routes
  • Short Grade 1 rock steps on the Ogwen/Craig yr Ysfa lines; sustained scrambling on Crib Lem
  • Loose stones, boggy ground and route-dependent river crossings
  • Long remote approaches and rapid changes in wind, temperature and visibility

Seasonal Hazards

Snow, ice and cornices can turn walking and scrambling routes into winter mountaineering. Iced rock steps can be particularly serious. Winter equipment, navigation and the skills to use them are needed when conditions demand; check a mountain forecast and turn back if conditions exceed your ability. Heavy rain can make unbridged streams unsafe.

General Safety Tips

  • Check weather conditions before setting out
  • Carry appropriate clothing and equipment
  • Let someone know your planned route
  • Take a map, compass, and GPS device
  • Carry emergency supplies: food, water, first aid kit, torch

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